Planet health upgrade

I expected brad pit from fight club before the picture loaded…

Frank Zane right? he was Mr Olympia back in the day.
yes, Frank Zane.

and lol i can see why you would think that.

Can’t go wrong with either of those bodies…look at Zane now and he STILL looks amazing!
definitely… his body is so well proportioned… its not like today where they look somewhat deformed

qft

I mean, today’s BBers are MONSTERS, but a lot of them look fat because they just have SO MUCH MASS! I love the classic BB look.
too bad none of us will achieve that look no matter how perfect we diet/train/drugs etc.
of course theres always this ‘classic’ pic

timber at 220 is perfection. so basically me. I wish

i see that he’s a fan of olive oil

jesus you are depressing

I like Kroc’s physique…I dont care about uber low BF

the truth hurts bro.

FOR REAL

you’ve been posting like this for the past couple days dude…is something wrong?

Me too!

down the road or across ?

LOL, CHEER UP

no seriously dude, you’ve been posting some depressing stuff lately bro

it’s been getting worse bro.

srsly

I will always be gay for Arnold only.

lol I think all of us have this.

Love my big hips and think I look great! You have a decent base/build too.

I know I do.
Treatments
Studies have found that the psychodynamic approach to therapy, traditional , has not been proven effective in treating BDD. However, (CBT) has proven more effective. In a study of 54 patients with BDD who were randomly assigned to Cognitive Behavior Therapy or no treatment, BDD symptoms decreased significantly in those patients undergoing CBT. BDD was eliminated in 82% of cases at post treatment and 77% at follow-up. (8) Due to low levels of serotonin in the brain, another commonly used treatment is SSRI drugs (). 74 subjects were enrolled in a -controlled study group to evaluate the efficiency of (Prozac), a SSRI drug. Patients were randomized to receive 12-weeks of double-blind treatment with fluoxetine or the placebo. At the end of 12 weeks, 53% of patients responded to the fluoxetine.
Body Dysmorphic Disorder is a disorder that if left untreated can worsen with time. Without treatment, BDD could last a lifetime. In many cases, as illustrated in The Broken Mirror by Katharine Phillips, the social and professional lives of many patients disintegrates because they are so preoccupied with their appearance.

I should edit this to read "Anabolic steroids and food."

LOL does it make you feel better that there are so few yoked asians? almost none that i can think of. like truly yoked up 230+

should probably stop trying bro, honestly

do you live in a desolate spot with cows mooing about ?

seriously im not depressed but im feeling real fuckin sorry for you jokka

DO WORK

bro it’s just the reality of it all. i aint going to stop this shiat b/c of it.

are you implying that there are lots of 240+ yoked up asians walking around? i live in CA dude, pretty much asian capitol

I keep reading that we can only gain 1-2 lbs. of muscles per month naturally, so this would take a while for us… stick with it and be patient.

Generally (not 240+… which was 230+ few posts ago), I keep hearing that Asians on the east coast are bigger then west.

even that wont happen. that’d be 24 pounds of muscle a year, so if you are 170 starting out, you really think in 3 years of training people are walking around at a swole 240+? doesnt work like that.

natural is fucking fail, lol

Yeah, probably tapers off right.

Christopher, what weight did you start off at?

yeah, lets put it this way.. if you are natural and you are say.. 5′11, you will probably never hit a yoked 240+, that is a non fat 240. if you are 5′10, you will not hit a yoked 230. keep taking off 10 pounds or so for each inch of height.

because a yoked 240 at 5′11 is fucking big, and it just doesnt happen with natty people.

unless you are a genetic anomaly like elite level bb’rs who were yoked w/o training

i started training when i was super fat at 16, i was like 330+, then i dieted to 210-220ish. then over time i got back up for strength athletics.
Hey, i can look like that if I wanted. Jus a lot of hard work and surgery. hahahah

its a great body in all, but im happy with mine

PS. I still look in the mirror and tell myself im too small or im nt lean enough. its natural.
i saw a pic of this 20 yr old italian kid who looked really good, let me find it

pics?
here ya go, another JMezz’ish body type, 5′11 237 in these

Question:

Once you FINALLY (If ever) get there…how hard is it to maintain?

Its easier to maintain than to get there right?
20? damn son

Mass i’ve always wanted to see a pic of you… Heard you were a swoleja boy
well, I know that guy has hired a nutritionist out of canada that he talks with daily, and I think he doesnt "bulk" per say, but I know he does get heavier in the year, he doesnt stay like that year round

I’m not sure about that theory.

I know plenty of dudes who are natural and non-fat that are 5′8" and a yoked 210 (this calculation is in perfect accord to your 1 inch per ten pound decrease).

Being 5′ 8" and 210lbs and non-fat isn’t hard. I know this because I am a hair over 5′ 8" and sitting at 215 at the moment with a 6 pack. And mind you, I am certainly not the biggest person I know who is natural and around my height.

I totally get what you’re saying though, and don’t discredit your intented point, I just think your means of calculation is off.

Serge Nubret guest posing at age 60

pics

Wow I cant believe he’s only a year older than me. He looks like a grownass man in that picture. Awesome build, though.

Never googled him, lol thank you.

Amazing

i’ll agree, I think this theory, which I agree with for those of us 5′9 and above is pretty much true, but I know guys who are 5′5-5′6 who have a solid 8-10 yrs of lifting under them and they are pretty damn thick and have never touched an anabolic

That’s fucking awesome.

They’re floating around here somewhere. I am not going to go looking for them though…. at least not for you.
As for the general topic of this thread, I want to say two things. First of all, lifting is a personal thing to me. I dont try to compare myself to pro BBs or genetic freaks like timber. I look at it as a struggle against myself, to look bigger/better/stronger than I was before. As long as I’m improving, I’m happy. I know that I will never be 230+ at 8% bf or w/e while staying natural. I’m fine with that. But I know I can be better than I am right now, therefore there is room for improvement.

There will always be someone better than you in everything you do in life. Use it as motivation instead of discouragement.

sounds good

Yeah, that gives clarification to my point a bit. Once you get taller (say 5′ 10" and above) Chris’s theory holds more water. At that point, I can certainly see it working. However, with shorter people I am not so sure that theory hold exclusively true. I am somewhere at 5′ 8" / 5′ 9" and I know natural dudes who are a couple inches shorter than me and weigh just about the same.

I guess Chris’s theory in applicable to the masses, but there are definite exceptions, and finding that exception isn’t particularly hard when talking about "shorter" people.

Great words right here.

Sometimes I tend to lose track of the fact that I need to be competing against myself to always improve, and just get caught up in comparing myself to others and bodybuilders, etc…

Very true… this was/is my root of my motivation and I need to stay focused. KNOW I can look better. Good post Max.

cant tell without seeing his back

Is that Zane?

YUP

i underestimated it

lol

guy is my new idol
No fucking legs at all on any of these oldschool bb’ers.

Personally, I prefer the look of todays bigger (not mass monster huge) more symmetrical guys, i.e. Levrone in his prime, ronny rockel, dexter jackson, etc

Those guys def look good. Diff strokes for diff folks.

It must be something with us guidos with that kind of build.

But man, I really need to get my ass in gear. I would absolutely love to look like that. Looking at his build and then looking at myself I get bummed though. I’m so far away from looking anything like that.

..who is that?

my asian buddy is 265 and benches 485 riggy raw! He is a FREAK! Pulls 700 plus too.

wow…awesome structure…whos that?

always exceptions to the rule

oh course. yeah I didn’t mean to imply he was typical

frank mcgrath iirc
i think at the end of the day.. if you’re natural.. and what i mean by natural is no use of any hormonal products. remember even timber used ph’s. lots of people that look sick that claim theyre natural are just popping lots of pro hormones and otc legal steroids such as versions of superdrol, halodrol, epistane, whatever.

so if really natural..

you can be smallish/lean

or biggish/pudgier

if you add on 10-15+ years of consistent training you’ll be able to lessen the gap

Antoine V (insert something really italian sounding)
Having started as a dude at about 120 lbs, it’s pretty damn depressing to be 170lbs now and still be a "little guy" at 5′8" after putting in so much time/work. 3 solid years later I look a lot better, but I’m by no means what anybody really aspires to be.

Yeah, anything is better than where I started from. On another note, holy inflation rate… it’s going to kills those of us in the middle class… meat prices are going to go up even more etc….

Here are some more:

oh der….hes depleted right now i believe…
Guy is fuckin 20 years old. I fail at weightlifting.

jokka fails.

jk bro

MTMS

aare you fucking kidding?????????? i mean really barb

I know I know…

i think hes been using since he was 17 or so

i wonder what the guys at AM would say about his starting so early lol
supposedly using during puberty can cause extra growth of a certain male organ…but your natural production is probably fucked…

wat

are you talking about TZ?

ouch

If you ever meet him in person he is pretty FOB….

naw kid’s name is Eugene. He is BRUTALLY strong.
i guess that’s perfect

but i think it’s gross, lol.

perfect to me would be super cut like he is, but 5′6", 130lbs or so.

that’s because that’s the size i would wanna be, lol. but supposedly you just wanna keep getting bigger so whatever.
Google image search frank zane and one of the returned results is a picture of timber

i wish i was that strong!

arent you prone to bicep tears by doing a mixed grip on a deadlift ?
i don’t see how a bicep tear doing mixed is any diff than overhand?

i know that you can hold a shit ton more weight mixed grip

Well…that’s how Barb tore his.

yes but doing stuff like rack pulls (which is what Barb was doing, not deadlifts) and rev band deadlifts amplify it because you are able to use supramaximal weights and your body is often in a different position….

He explains why in his log, jokka.

whatever kroc is a big motherfucker

anyone got a good photo of dimas?

I’m sure google image has a good one.

when i think of you athletics is the first thing that comes to mind

From what I have read its years of abuse and then finally it lets go. I have pulled 505 on a rack pull and felt fine, pulled 470 on a regular dead and felt great. This was just a wierd occurence but it has happened to a bunch of people online from reading various forums. I dont think I will ever deadlift again unless I ever want to compete. From this point on its rehab and then I will be training under what Uncle Pur has in store for me even if its the BB route.

I think of the BO$$, for some reason.

well here’s a classic one..looking for more

"eh, this is nothing"

Did you have any prior pains or indications leading up to the tear?

none dudes, my left bicep was bugging me for awhile though
we had two lifters tear their right bi on the same day doing rack pulls. There is a fairly strong ‘use straps for rack pulls’ rule at southside because of it

I almost tore mine doing rev band pulls, luckily it was only strained and I could still train.

fuck I remember when you posted that…

this is something to keep in mind, thx brosef

So the right hand was faced up during the mixed grip when this happened?

Is this usually the case during a bicep tears during deadlifts?
actually on the topic of rack pulls…
i got an issue with the top portion/lockout of my deadlift. how do i get that shit up?
545 rack pulls is hard because of lockout..

Yes my right hand was open/sup

Fucking Solid Snake or Big Boss right there.

glutes or upper back probably

naw it aint the glutes in this case..so yes upper back. how do i hit that shit hard? row row row?
just add a foot or two to his height so he’s not 4′11 and it will be perfect

zane is 5′9 almost 5′10.

I wish, bro
perfect/borderline practical:

dream/unrealistic:

question: is it just me or do all the pro bodybuilders seem like they guts are bigger. Compared with arnold or zane who have a slim defined abdomen. Is this because of the use of Gh?

Damn…Its almost like he has no skin, like one of those muscle charts
stan is not realistic for anyone on this board…EVER

Timber on gear?

JMJ, Preemo or Jeff Merr?
what’s so special about stan that none of those 3 cant do themselves ?

umm, width, muscle belly, hes over 200-210 shredded on stage now. Primo is 5′4 150…are you fucking serious? Timber could get the closest but never truly as big and round. Jeff Merr? A natural bb’er who just did his first show…if he was 15 and starting out sure maybe. Man you guys need to learn the sport more I dwarf stan stadning next to him and i coudlnt even dream of being on stage against him right now. Regular pics and off stage pics do him no justice, hes almost flawless head to toe.

i meant in the size of that pic. i know he’s has put on a shit-ton of size since then.. but that pic is years old.

aim faggot

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